Many of you have seen my videos of me using my Shapeoko 3 XXL CNC and have seen my custom waste board. Since I've gotten several messages about it I'm writing this blog post for everyone to access easily. Although the file is made for the XXL it can easily be modified for any size CNC you have. Click The Button Below To Purchase From My Etsy Shop: It helps support what i do so I can create more free content :) You'll want to download this as it's preprogrammed for a 3/4 thick sheet of mdf at 31" x 31" (the max cutting area of a XXL). When you open the file you'll be looking at the bottom of the waste board. The t-nuts come up from the bottom. The larger circle is the base (washer-like) part of the t-nut and the smaller hole is where the shaft of the t-nut will go through. I programmed the file to use the cutter that came with your machine, #201, 1/4 up-cut bit. If you have a 1/8 bit it would be ideal to 'drill' the smaller holes with it. Generally, it is recommended to use a bit 1/3 of the size hole your going to create. If your having problem drilling the hole with the #201, use a 1/8 upcut bit. You'll want to place the sheet at the very front of the machine against the metal lip and make sure it's centered. When you cut, you'll want to make sure that you use dust collection and wear breathing protection (I recommend the RZ Mask) because MDF dust is extremely fine and very harmful. After it's done cutting the file, i predrilled and countersunk a few holes around the waste board we just cut to screw it to the waste board that came with the machine. Make sure you sink these screws at least 1/2 way through the material. You don't want to accidentally hit them with a bit! The 3/4 mdf we just cut with our hole pattern is called a supplemental waste board. Why don't we just replace the waste board that came with our machine? We do this because we will eventually mark up the board with through cuts and get to a point that it will need to be replaced. Its much easier to unscrew a piece of mdf and replace the smaller board than take the whole machine apart and end up having to re-square the machine. Unfortunately, You'll have to purchase a full 4x8 sheet of mdf to get the piece we need. On some setups you'll see people have a L shaped fence on the front left of their machine. This allows a very quick x,y zeroing because the same point will be used over and over. Its a great choice if your doing constant, repeat work and can be added to this waste board easily. I chose not to do this for two reasons: My work is never consistent, and I occasionally have pieces hang over the front and back of the machine (engraving table tops). Instead I use a set of Oops Clamps from Suck-it Dust Boot Company and place two of them in parallel to form a 'fence'. Not only are the extremely low profile, they are cheap and easy to replace if you have an oops situation. If you end up making this waste board please tag me on social media or email me pictures of your set up! I love seeing how others do their work and what modifications make your workflow more successful! Happy CNCing! Ben 1/4 - 20 t nuts *you need 5 packs, 240 in total* - https://amzn.to/2KWDsx5 1/4 - 20 hex bolts - https://amzn.to/2UgneU5 1/4 - 20 washers - https://amzn.to/2KXoFST
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Nathan Hill
12/30/2018 09:52:12 pm
Hi Ben,
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Ben Myers
12/31/2018 08:43:58 am
Nathan,
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12/31/2018 08:18:23 pm
Just a quick note on the ".txt" file extension. For me, all I needed to do was to simply remove the ".txt" from the end of the file name (leaving it with ".c2d"). Works like a peach (at least on my Mac). Thanks again for all the excellent files and help Ben!
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6/17/2019 09:29:39 am
I right click save as and there is no option for .c2d file extension, just .txt and all files? Will CC change it into a .nc so that CM can run it.
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Nic Barrick
1/7/2019 09:13:33 pm
Hey Ben! Would you have any idea why when I load your wasteboard file into CC I keep getting a "not responding" and have to shut down? Do I need to update CC, currently running build 313.
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Ben Myers
1/8/2019 07:49:42 pm
Hey Nic,
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Nic Barrick
1/8/2019 08:32:11 pm
Thanks Ben... I did exactly that, kisses and all. (appreciate that your a family man!) It did eventually get caught up. I saved the gcode and ran in CM.
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Ben Myers
1/10/2019 06:00:12 pm
Nic,
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Philip Brady
4/22/2020 12:46:05 pm
This is the first time that I have written to you I hope you will forgive me for writing to you about this subject. I have a shapeoko XL that I just purchased recently ( just got it together ). It does not respond when I plug it in.There are lights in the control board but no action ( nothing at all ) Is there any advice you can offer ? The machine locks up when I plug it in but nothing else..Robot shop has not offered any advice as to what to do next ( I am at a loss as to what to do about the problem, so if you have any ideas I would be grateful.
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Kalo
1/9/2021 07:51:37 pm
I had the same situation with my XXL recently. I found the Carbide tech support more than up to the task. Within a week of reporting the problem, I'd run through some tests on the phone with a tech and received a shiny new control board in the mail.
Eduard Martinescu
1/14/2019 03:59:24 pm
Hey Ben,
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Ben Myers
1/15/2019 07:35:28 am
Eduard,
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Eduard Martinescu
1/15/2019 09:07:17 am
Thanks. Did you screw directly into the main wasteboard? Or do you have tnuts down there also?
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Ben Myers
1/15/2019 08:50:17 pm
Just screwed directly to the main wasteboard. t nuts would be the idea, just alotta work :P
Eduard Martinescu
1/16/2019 06:28:16 pm
Thanks.
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Ben Myers
1/17/2019 07:41:40 am
huh. they must have changed the amount since i bought them.
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Hi Ben;
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Ken again
2/1/2019 07:04:31 am
One more thought for anyone... you could put a piece of rigid foam or the shipping cardboard under the "supplemental waste board" and screw it to the XXL while running this file. Just to avoid accidentally cutting into the XXL base board.
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Ben Myers
2/2/2019 09:35:51 am
Ken,
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Roy Eltham
2/10/2019 01:55:11 pm
In older videos you had the Carbide t-track kit installed on your machine. Now that is gone and you have this one you made. Did you ever explain why?
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Ben Myers
2/10/2019 07:41:09 pm
I don't think I ever did. The T Track works but I kept having times when the clamps just wouldn't reach what i was cutting. And I can't tell you the number of bits i broke while moving the machine around on clamps.
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Roy Eltham
2/10/2019 08:29:20 pm
I'm using these Rockler t-track stops and inline cam clamp:
Ben Myers
2/11/2019 09:28:30 am
I've seen some people do a version of this with some t track every few inches. might be the hybrid you'd like.
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Ryan B
2/25/2019 07:12:18 pm
Hi Ben, thanks so much for putting this together. Question though. Have you heard of anyone having the 201 bit grab into the wood and cause significant tear out when drilling the holes? I ran the program this afternoon and all was good milling the recess, first through hole and bam! It bogged down and bit into the wood causing some nice damage. The bit survived luckily... Any thoughts?
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Ben Myers
2/25/2019 08:24:48 pm
Did it drag the wasteboard? did you have it secured down with brads or nails? Hard to tell without seeing it.
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Ryan B
2/25/2019 08:41:26 pm
It did move it when it grabbed. I didn't nail it down because I didn't want the bit to hit the nails because I put it in the wrong spot. I guess the couple of pieces of double sided tape was not enough to hold it down. 6/17/2019 09:24:04 am
Your router speed may have been too slow also, maybe just somthing that came to mind.
Ben Myers
2/26/2019 10:11:27 pm
that sucks. id do 4 tiny brad nails next time.
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Hey Ben! I just got up and running with my Shapeoko XL, have watched a bunch of your videos (actually your in depth side by side with the X-carve is was finalized my choice) and they've been extremely helpful.
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Ben Myers
3/4/2019 03:26:55 pm
have you watch the video on how to make a wasteboard I made? That will walk you through step by step.
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Chris E
3/4/2019 07:41:12 pm
Yes, oh man I’m sorry I actually HAVE watched that video but I did so while I was waiting on my Shapeoko to arrive, I’ve since watched a ton of tutorials for various projects but I forgot how detailed your wasteboard video was, even just going through the first 5 mins of this I realize I’ll be covered. Thanks a lot!
Ben Myers
3/9/2019 08:37:35 am
If you still have questions after, message me.
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Ben myers
3/14/2019 01:09:35 pm
I’d do a screw in the 4 corners. I’d hate for the double sided tape to fail and you lose the whole sheet of mdf
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Do you think it would be a problem to screw down the MDF for the back side cuts then flip it over and use the same holes to permanently secure to the MDF down, could the reverse threading of the screws the second time through cause it to become loose? Would it be better to put the screw holes in different places so the final securing of the MDF would be a "first" time drill down or use a smaller screw first?
Adam
3/16/2019 05:07:59 pm
Hey Ben,
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Ben Myers
3/18/2019 08:43:53 pm
if you have the space.i'd do a new hole, if not it should be ok. you can stick a toothpick in the hold to make up for the lost material.
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Cameron
3/24/2019 04:39:59 pm
Hey Ben! Love your content. I am just finishing up the XXL wasteboard as we speak but I noticed that the first three rows of holes around the perimeter for the recess for the tnut were only cut to 0.055 and some even as shallow as 0.038 any insight to why it did that? my board appears flat but i guess the edges could be bowed/cupped down? the holes towards the center are cut to correct depth. Thanks in advance.
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Ben Myers
3/25/2019 06:29:34 pm
Cameron,
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Mike
4/20/2019 04:11:10 pm
Hi Ben,
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Matt Jones
4/7/2022 05:12:44 pm
I had this same issue, the wrong washers showed up when I ordered from the link. What size are the washers?
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Carissa Kartchner
4/30/2019 10:30:33 pm
should my board be 32x32 or 31x31? I noticed here you say 31 but on youtube you say 32. Just want to make sure i have it right. purchase your file last night! Thanks for putting it out there.
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ben myers
5/4/2019 09:37:43 am
I cut my board 32x32,. this leaves just a bit of extra space. then the 1" flattening bit will reach it with its extra reach.
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Travis
5/2/2019 07:16:04 pm
Hi Ben,
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ben myers
5/4/2019 09:36:11 am
Travis,
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5/10/2019 01:16:52 pm
Hi Ben,
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ben myers
5/14/2019 09:47:26 pm
I don't see why you couldn't use it. let me know how it works!
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Tim
5/19/2019 09:22:36 pm
One issue I encountered was that your tolerances are too tight for the larger circle recesses. If the t nuts aren't perfectly sized, they will not enter the hole properly. Also, if the machine isn't perfectly square, the t nuts will also have difficulty lining up.
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Dennis Truckenbrod
5/28/2019 11:09:25 am
Hey Ben, great site and information you provide, Thanks I have a question regarding flattening my waste board. I am currently making my waste board per your file and it is working great. once I get done Im going to flatten it. in your video and file you use a 1.50" flattening bit. I am brand new to this and ended up getting a Whiteside spoilboard surfacing bit from woodcraft. It is only a 1.0" bit and I am wondering how I change the tool in carbide create. when I go to the bit area, my flattening bit is not listed. also do I have to change any other paths or will the program adjust for the smaller bit? Thanks for what you do for us beginners. You make this so much easier and enjoyable
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ben myers
5/30/2019 08:38:38 am
Dennis,
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jason emerson
6/9/2019 12:51:50 am
can you make me a 48x48 threaded countersunk t=nut file. I think im using your 2" design. I bought 150 tuts 1/4-20
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ben myers
6/10/2019 11:10:07 pm
Yeah! the file is easy to edit.
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Tom Roche
6/10/2019 06:55:06 pm
Ben,
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ben myers
6/10/2019 11:09:14 pm
NO! Just flatten the new one with tee nuts.
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Tom
7/15/2019 05:48:38 pm
Just tried to run after homing and zeroing all the xy and paper toucht the z and when it starts it goes tot eh back and starts its thing but stays about 1/8 inch above the surface and doest cut anything. i tried sample circle in another program witht he same settings and bit, homed and zeroed the saem and it cut the circle i downlaoed it again and same thing.. any suggestions
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Greg Cordes
1/19/2020 11:38:39 pm
Tom did you ever figure this out? I am having a similar problem. Not necessarily with this file, but if I do something like a simple text phrase, it often tries to cut 1/8 to 3/16" of the workpiece. I use the touch plate to set X/Y/Z.
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Greg Cordes
1/19/2020 11:40:21 pm
correction -- 1/8" to 3/16" above the workpiece 7/16/2019 06:44:04 pm
Hey Ben,
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Dave K
4/14/2020 08:06:42 pm
If you flattened the wasteboard prior to milling the Tnut hols they should all be similar in depth from the top surface, but not necessarily the bottom surface. However remember this will be the bottom of the wasteboard once the Tnuts are inserted and the board is flipped over. However don't flatten first. Your wasteboard will be anchored to what we assume is an un-flat baseboard surface. If the baseboard is not uniformly bowed, similar left to right and top to bottom, the end result will still be a less than flat surface. You will get a much better result if you merely flatten the wasteboard once its properly installed. At that point you know the surface is true to the router.
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Ron
7/19/2019 03:14:28 pm
I downloaded the 16x16 version of the wasteboard. When trying to run it. I found that the loaded file has the starting point set to front left. The machine is set to shapeoko xxl. I changed these settings to center and shapeoko 3. But when trying to run the router goes to the right and back and starts making nosie such that I have to stop the program. I noticed in your run the router goes left and back. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've run the hello word and it ran correctly. I've used the laser to burn an image and it worked. Which makes me believe that x and y go in the correct direction.
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Ronald A. Clifford
7/20/2019 02:36:48 pm
I think I found the problem with the shapeoko 3 file. It is set for 16 x 16. But the cutting area is only 15.748 x 13.7795.
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ron
7/22/2019 11:23:40 pm
Never mind I figured out the problem.
Duke
12/6/2019 04:06:59 pm
I’ve tried the files for the xl on my XL several times, and mine is going to the northeast corner quickly and then popping trying to go past that point.
Dell
10/2/2019 10:12:13 pm
Hey, thanks for all of this and the other things you do. It was actually your videos that made my mind up between the Shapeoko XXL and the Xcarve. But I am not finding the surfacing (flattening) file you said you would post in the video.
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Edward Jackson
11/23/2019 02:24:33 pm
BEN : I am trying to decide which is the right desktop computer to use. I have read different articles but it is very confusing what I need to run the shapeoko xxl.
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ben myers
5/15/2020 01:39:22 pm
any windows or mac computer should work if its been made in the last 5ish years.
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Duke
12/6/2019 08:35:29 pm
Solved my own problem.
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Carlos Villanueva
12/20/2019 06:34:24 pm
Hi Ben, i tried to open the waste board xxl file with Motion, and i got a message that reads "BAD CHARACTERS IN G-CODE" any idea what i could have done wrong, thanks. Carlos
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bradley calderone
1/19/2020 09:41:05 am
Hey Ben,
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Hey Ben,
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Bill
2/11/2020 07:33:32 pm
Ben. Great file! I have one question. The bottom holes on the left are 3/8 from the edge to center and on the right they are 1/2" to center. The board is pushed right up to the front like you said. I just do get why the holes are travelling a bit north from left to right?
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Dave K
4/14/2020 08:15:56 pm
Best guess is your machine is not true left to right. A quick and dirty test would be to strap a pencil to the router body and use the jog feature to bring your router near the front of your unit. Drive down in z carefully to mark your wasteboard. Now jog across your waste board in the X direction, leaving the Y unmoved. Once complete measure the distance on either side to your front base plate. Ideally the measurements will be identical. If not I would review the section on squaring your machine.
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Travis
3/16/2020 06:27:10 pm
Ben,
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Dave K
4/14/2020 08:17:18 pm
What thickness of wasteboard were you using? I believe this file is setup for 3/4 inch.
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Michael
3/22/2020 12:58:50 pm
Hello Ben, so I've read all of the prior conversations on here but no matter what I do I can not get the Gcode to save help please.
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Ed Hill
4/3/2020 11:56:16 am
Ben, I watched your video for making the wasteboard. I liked it a lot. Are you drilling a 5/16 through hole and using 1/4-20 t nuts and what length bolts should I get? I had already ordered the 1/4-20 t nuts before I watched your video
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Dave K
4/14/2020 08:20:55 pm
Ed
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john hall
6/6/2020 05:16:40 pm
Ben, It is my understanding that you were going to design a waste board using the matchfit dovetail bit. Have you done anything in this direction. Also it would be helpful for us newbies that purchased the Onefinity if you could show us how you would square your waste board to the machine. Thanks much really enjoy your content.
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Jason
6/12/2020 12:12:18 pm
Hey Ben,
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TJ
6/28/2020 12:46:42 pm
Greetings Ben and thanks for sharing your XXL wasteboard project.
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Robert johnson
7/6/2020 10:02:21 pm
Hey great idea and thank you for creating good usable content for newbies to save money. I really appreciate it. Quick question I can’t get enough of the threaded Inserts on Amazon wiill the threaded ones in 3d carbide work for this file
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Kenny Kyle
7/25/2020 11:33:38 pm
Your link for the download the files is displaying your code for the page. So you have part of the code that displays the link is calling for it to display the code instead. Check your code.
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Susan
10/13/2020 07:18:41 pm
I bought the code for the wasteboard and when the job starts the spindle moves around above the surface (approx2") above the MDF sheet.
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Susan
10/15/2020 06:43:22 pm
I figured thatvoart out BUT. .. after cutting the easteboard i am uncertain that I zeroed in the same place that would be recommended ???
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Jake Laughlin
1/15/2021 06:08:59 am
Ben,
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Robert A Delahaye
2/14/2021 05:14:35 pm
I tried to find the T-nuts but they are out, I was looking for others that were the same dimension's but couldn't find any. Any idea where I could I could find these?
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David Feierabend
3/2/2021 07:16:34 pm
I was looking at these since the other are currently unavailable
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Scott Hammond
3/8/2021 07:17:22 pm
I just purchased these but plan on measuring them with my calipers prior to starting the job. Or, you could do a test run on a piece of scrap MDF to check for fit before running the entire file.
Mike R.
7/29/2021 12:58:57 pm
I’m going to purchase your XL wasteboard file from Etsy but I was wondering what would be the dimensions of the MDF? I know for the XXL you used 32x32 and I’m figuring you arrived at that by measuring the furthest the machine can reach but was wondering what the presets are for the wasteboard which is in the file you created with CM. Thanks for your help.
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Spike Carpenter
10/26/2022 06:11:34 pm
Hey Ben,
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